Friday, April 14, 2023

Michigan Dem Legislature To Pro Gun Side: We Won't Let You Speak Against These Bills

During the hearings on the gun control bills the Democrats are pushing (and of which both the "safe storage"  and "universal registration" bills have been signed into law), a curious thing happened.

The Gun banner side in favor of these bad laws was given lots of time to speak.

The Pro-Firearms ownership side that was against these defective and punitive bills?  Not so much. 

 In fact, in most hearings, they were completely blocked from testifying at all, and in the few hearings where they were allowed to speak, they were severely time-limited when those in favor of the bills were not.

Most speakers including those from Great lakes Gun Rights and Michigan Open Carry and were not allowed to speak, and even John Lott was limited to minutes for his opposition after they almost shut him out as well, declaring they were "out of time", after giving the antis all the time they wanted.

So both Great Lakes Gun Rights and Michigan Open Carry are now suing for this rather obnoxious treatment and probable due process and government free speech violation.

The Detroit News:  Gun groups sue Michigan Legislature over ability to testify on firearms bills

2 comments:

pigpen51 said...

I am a member of GLGR, and I hope that they are successful. Anything that brings more attention to the issue has to be a good thing.
The one that concerns me the most is the "red flag law". That one is in direct violation of the 4th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, in my opinion. I am pretty sure that it is going to pass and be signed into law, since the Democrats have nothing to stop them.
It is my wish that someone will file suit against the eventual red flag law, and it will reach the Michigan Supreme Court, who will make a decision against the law as being against the state constitution. It may be that the state appeals it to the SCOTUS. I suspect that another state will appeal to the SCOTUS as well. Eventually someone should bring it there. I think that a court in NY has already issued a preliminary injunction against red flag laws.
The big problem that I can see with these red flag laws is using it as a weapon to harm an ex husband who doesn't pay child support on time, or an ex wife who makes it hard to get visitation when ordered. Or a stalker who wants to cause trouble, or the list goes on and on. Even a neighbor who is angry or doesn't like guns.

Aaron said...

pigpen51: Yep the Red Flag law has serious issues with the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments. Tey sure didn;t go half-way in drafting it.

You are right that there are far too many opportunities for abuse for those who may wish to abuse it for nefarious and improper ends.

Of course, it also doesn't actually stop this "extreme risk" from being free to go forth and commit mayhem, it just takes their guns away. But, it does NOT take away their access to cars, deadly chemicals, flammable materials,knives,and much else that an "extreme risk" could use to commit mass murder - and they've just been really annoyed by a star-chamber type proceeding and turned loose.

Sounds like a really smart approach, right?