tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post5720967610839553927..comments2024-03-26T21:04:41.824-04:00Comments on The Shekel - Coins, Law, and Commentary: Dude, Stay The Heck Off My SideAaronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08146728790019377401noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-6705793061635371082015-06-18T11:01:28.862-04:002015-06-18T11:01:28.862-04:00"Gathering information", come on, even y..."Gathering information", come on, even you don't believe he was doing that.<br /><br />Yes, skulking around a jail and sheriff's department and acting evasive and suspicious can certainly be cause for a LEO to approach and see what you're up to.<br /><br />In any case, how is skulking around a jail or videotaping sheriff's cars assisting in getting an effective message Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08146728790019377401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-47925508906547712582015-06-17T12:27:32.835-04:002015-06-17T12:27:32.835-04:001) Anyone gathering information is a journalist. ...1) Anyone gathering information is a journalist. The state doesn't get to decide who freedom of the press does and does not apply to -- it applies to all of us.<br /><br />2) Sure they can approach him. That gives him NO obligation to cooperate with him. They can try to talk to him, just like any other citizen can talk to him. What they can't do is force him to answer or arrest him Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-65894833587874467762015-06-17T10:24:35.563-04:002015-06-17T10:24:35.563-04:00Nixon is either an attention whore or perhaps even...Nixon is either an attention whore or perhaps even an anti-gunner playing at trying to make gun owners out to be aggressive idiots. <br /><br />He's caused a school to go into lockdown twice by parading around it (not on his way to anywhere and no, he doesn't have kids at that school either).<br />He also has falsely claiming to be a journalist while filming the county jail apparently Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08146728790019377401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-30040666495992197302015-06-16T10:19:33.480-04:002015-06-16T10:19:33.480-04:00Again with the didn't enlist ad hominem. It i...Again with the didn't enlist ad hominem. It isn't impressive. Signing up and changing oil in truck for four years doesn't make you a patriot, and that's 90% of the service.<br /><br />It's not a straw man, it's a direct comparison. It's all about public fear vs rights. People really <i>did</i> call in "black man" calls, just like "man with a gun"Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-47200518941198862015-06-15T23:50:59.522-04:002015-06-15T23:50:59.522-04:00Nice straw man argument, Phelps. Do try to stay on...Nice straw man argument, Phelps. Do try to stay on topic though.<br /><br />The sighting of a man with a gun messing around in a parking lot for county employees when he is not an employee of said county, photographing people's license plates, is certainly suspicious enough to warrant at least a cursory investigation, and let's be real here--that idiot Shawn Nixon went to that parking lotMurphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-70621493167564371932015-06-15T19:45:12.722-04:002015-06-15T19:45:12.722-04:00When you act in a manner calculated to cause publi...<i>When you act in a manner calculated to cause public alarm and the police respond, they, as representatives of the rest of us, have every right to determine who you are and try to figure out if you really pose a valid threat of if you're just pretending to pose a threat because you like the attention.</i><br /><br />So, your rights go away if exercising them causes "public alarm"?Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-65510623040328939272015-06-15T18:42:51.099-04:002015-06-15T18:42:51.099-04:00Arrest him for Obstructing a Police Investigation,...Arrest him for Obstructing a Police Investigation, that's what. When you act in a manner calculated to cause public alarm and the police respond, they, as representatives of the rest of us, have every right to determine who you are and try to figure out if you really pose a valid threat of if you're just pretending to pose a threat because you like the attention. At that point, you'veMurphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-41386460046497627062015-06-15T13:38:10.643-04:002015-06-15T13:38:10.643-04:00Phelps:
TCOC practically lost Open Carry in Texas...Phelps:<br /><br />TCOC practically lost Open Carry in Texas by their antics.<br /><br />Indeed, it <a href="http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/senate-passes-open-carry-much-to-open-carry-tarrant-county-leader-kory-watkins-chagrin-7120596" rel="nofollow">passed despite of, rather than because of them. Instead it was done by the efforts of others.</a> Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08146728790019377401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-14849855471958440732015-06-15T13:36:39.919-04:002015-06-15T13:36:39.919-04:00Arrest him for WHAT? For not answering questions ...Arrest him for WHAT? For not answering questions he has NO obligation to answer? <br /><br />Open Carry wasn't on the table until after Watkins and his bunch PUT it on the table. Those are the facts. I'm sorry that you can't claim that victory, but that bunch got it to the legislature. They didn't get everything that they wanted, and the lege may think that they were spiting Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-5449005081341838572015-06-15T13:06:25.261-04:002015-06-15T13:06:25.261-04:00Re: the Terry stop, I'd expect nothing less fr...Re: the Terry stop, I'd expect nothing less from the deputies under the circumstances that Nixon crafted. And if he refuses to identify himself once he gives cause fr the investigation, I'm good with them arresting him for obstruction and taking him in to be fingerprinted so as to determine exactly who he is. All his choice, of course.<br /><br />Phelps, If you really think that people Murphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-26913449196846296292015-06-15T12:53:29.815-04:002015-06-15T12:53:29.815-04:00Sure, they can make a Terry stop. That doesn'...Sure, they can make a Terry stop. That doesn't mean that he has to have an answer for them. "F you, am I free to go?" is fine.<br /><br />He's not hurting the cause of Open Carry. People said the EXACT same thing of Tarrant Co. Open Carry here in Texas. Oh, they are hurting the cause. Oh, it's so terrible. Oh, they are such jerks.<br /><br />The end result? Before Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-50286043555845421432015-06-15T12:51:01.697-04:002015-06-15T12:51:01.697-04:00Phelps: Google "Terry Stop", we'll ...Phelps: Google "Terry Stop", we'll wait.<br /><br />Again, you walk around a Sheriff's department they have the right to approach and ask you what you're doing there, armed or not. That he didn't have an appropriate response for this when he should have known it would occur indicates a clear lack of appropriate planning.<br /><br />He went there for no other purpose Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08146728790019377401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-46833089204146493932015-06-15T12:35:07.389-04:002015-06-15T12:35:07.389-04:00Yeah, I figured as much. "Illegal orders'...Yeah, I figured as much. "Illegal orders'..." please. We all know that your own safety and comfort came before service to the country. Your kind always hold yourselves out to be the only true Americans yet you all give less to this country than Sally Struthers gives to those little African kids that she touts on her commercials.<br /><br />As for Nixon, he was back in the employee Murphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-88955473828187628652015-06-15T12:10:06.682-04:002015-06-15T12:10:06.682-04:00Actually, no. I didn't serve, because I knew ...Actually, no. I didn't serve, because I knew that I would refuse an unlawful order, and it isn't fair to the military or the People to waste millions of dollars training me when they are just going to eventually court martial me and drum me out of the service (whether the court martial sticks or not.)<br /><br />But, by all means, convince yourself that only those who participate in Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-42580307776641864022015-06-15T12:01:33.384-04:002015-06-15T12:01:33.384-04:00Phelps,
We live in a society here, one that prote...Phelps,<br /><br />We live in a society here, one that protects the rights of all but which also imposes a responsibility on the part of all to cooperate for the common good and work together for public safety. When people like you act like you've got everything coming but that the rest of us are "the enemy", you make things worse, not better. Frankly, idiots like you the rest of usMurphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-9660479557421381622015-06-15T11:00:53.629-04:002015-06-15T11:00:53.629-04:00It's not humor. What makes a right a right is...It's not humor. What makes a right a right is that you <i>don't have to answer questions about it</i>. So what if the County complex was out of the way? That doesn't confer some special status on it. So what if he didn't have a "reason"? Even if he HAD a reason, there is no obligation to explain why you are doing ANYTHING legal to a cop.<br /><br />A cop can't Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-21170713688526381642015-06-15T10:54:32.435-04:002015-06-15T10:54:32.435-04:00Frederick:
Mayhaps then he shouldn't go out o...Frederick:<br /><br />Mayhaps then he shouldn't go out of his way to travel to and wander around the Sheriff's department property if he's expecting not to be asked by the sheriff's deputies what he's doing there. As indeed you say Police can indeed investigate and see if there's crime afoot, and an armed fellow showing up on their doorstep gives them a right to approach Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08146728790019377401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-39850283532178635522015-06-14T22:59:09.065-04:002015-06-14T22:59:09.065-04:00Stop being a Fudd.
Either you support the Secon...Stop being a Fudd. <br /><br />Either you support the Second Amendment, or <i>you don't</i>. If you are .2% Fudd, you might as well be 100% Fudd. The Bill of Rights isn't there to support thing that the Power that Be would be OK with you doing anyways. It's about the things that they <i>don't</i> want you to be able to to.<br /><br />May your chains rest lightly upon you, and Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-38128995867533687192015-06-14T20:06:51.472-04:002015-06-14T20:06:51.472-04:00I have a general problem with the idea that a poli...I have a general problem with the idea that a police officer's "most basic" questions are also, per se, "innocent." Let's never forget, shall we, that a police officer's primary duty is law enforcement, and a corollary to that is his building an effective case against you for prosecution. So please, spare me the "innocent" questioning line.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14147714446076460699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-13906432196101241782015-06-14T13:52:18.772-04:002015-06-14T13:52:18.772-04:00Those last two comments, right there.
If you'...Those last two comments, right there.<br /><br />If you're carrying a long gun around in day-to-day public just to "educate the public", you're being a toolbag, no two ways around it.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-7646125802906183802015-06-13T10:34:39.548-04:002015-06-13T10:34:39.548-04:00SJ:
That's the right way to do it. Good for ...SJ:<br /><br />That's the right way to do it. Good for them. They've likely won many more supporters than Nixon will in a lifetime.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08146728790019377401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-58752207454461316932015-06-13T08:50:28.592-04:002015-06-13T08:50:28.592-04:00You know what's odd?
I've seen two openly...You know what's odd?<br /><br />I've seen two openly-carried pistols in the past month. In areas that I've never seen openly-carried pistols before.<br /><br />Not people "Carrying at someone", but people simply carrying and going about their business.<br /><br />One was shopping at a grocery store, the other was paying for something inside the gas station.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12043843405366080460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-41919060573418151692015-06-12T16:02:57.542-04:002015-06-12T16:02:57.542-04:003boxesofbs: Respectfully, no. No, we should not s...3boxesofbs: Respectfully, no. No, we should not support people being Visibly Armed Jerks.<br /><br />If you're carrying a firearm in public you'd darn well better hold yourself to a higher standard than being a jerk or you will eventually be in for a world of hurt.<br /><br />Have anger management problems? Don't carry. Go out of your way seeking confrontations with others? Don'Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08146728790019377401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-51335830841686984192015-06-12T14:43:13.673-04:002015-06-12T14:43:13.673-04:00I support concealed and open carry but I also supp...I support concealed and open carry but I also support a law that allows local officials to determine that a person like Shawn Nixon is unstable and specifically deny him the right to carry a gun off of his property based on a showing of deliberately hostile actions like he's engaging in now.Murphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5924544.post-80982110561864408182015-06-12T09:45:19.809-04:002015-06-12T09:45:19.809-04:00Should we support the right of people to be "...Should we support the right of people to be "Visibly Armed Jerks" (VAJ) (TM)?<br /><br />I understand most people want those on their side to be warm cuddly, friendly folks who wouldn't look out of place in church, the White House etc.....but let's face it; most of America isn't really like that. Most people rub someone the wrong way at least once a day. <br /><br />So Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com